2 Thessalonians 3:14. What Does The Bible Say About Shunning?

The Apostle Paul says, 'Do not associate with them, in order that they may feel ashamed.'

Should Christians Shun Non Believers?

The Bible indicates that the Apostle Paul recommended judging and shunning as a tool to control and manipulate early Christians into submission.

In 2 Thessalonians chapter 3, the Apostle Paul 'commands' early Christians to 'obey'. He says that if anyone is lazy or 'disruptive', Christians were not to associate with such people, 'that they may be ashamed' [15]

It is interesting that Paul uses the words 'command' and 'obey' because in Acts 5:29, 'Peter and the other apostles replied: "We must obey God rather than human beings!'

Whenever we see a contradiction like this, the best thing to do is refer back to the words of Jesus because he is the path to eternal life. What did Jesus say about shunning and not associating with people who are not like us?

What Does Jesus Say?

In Matthew 5:44-47 Jesus says, 'I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?'

The Bible says 'Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.' 2 John 1:9

Jesus said, 'No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.' 1 John 2:23;

Jesus also told us to judge. Luke 6:37; Shunning and not associating with people to control and manipulate them back into your religion, would be a clear rejection of the instructions of Jesus AND 'the Father'!

Christians are under contract with God. This contract is called baptism. Jesus instructed followers to be baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Matthew 28:18,19; Jesus didn't tell us to obey humans or even the Bible! [16]

Why Did Paul Disagree With Jesus?

If Paul was a Christian and a follower of Jesus, why did he 'command' early Christians to obey him in 2 Thessalonians? Why did he command them not to associate with friends who were busy bodies and disruptive?

The reason is simple. Contrary to popular belief that apostasy began centuries after Jesus died and first century Christians were 'true Christians', apostasy began right away! If you read the words of Jesus and then read the words of Paul, you'll see there's a difference between what Jesus taught and what Paul taught. Why is that?

After Jesus died, some Pharisees became Christians. One Pharisee who was responsible for the death of Christians when Jesus was alive became the Apostle Paul.

The Apostle Paul did not study with Jesus like the 12 disciples did. Because of this, Paul unwittingly brought 'the leaven of the Pharisees' into the early Christian congregation. In fact, Paul claimed to be Pharisee AFTER he converted to Christianity! Acts 23:6;

Jesus rebuked the Pharisees and they plotted to kill him. Matthew 23: 26; Luke 18: 9-14; Luke 7:37; Jesus warned us about the leaven of the Pharisees. Matthew 16: 6;

Pharisees were not bad people. They just thought they were better than everyone else. They associated with people just like themselves. They were not humble like Jesus was. The Pharisees were self important, self righteous, and arrogant.
The Pharisees were good at controlling and manipulating people through intimidation. They expected people to do what they said.

What changed when Pharisee Saul suddenly became the Apostle Paul? Did Paul instantly forget everything he was taught as a Pharisee? Of course not. What Paul did was similar to a Jehovah's Witnesses suddenly becoming a Catholic and then the Pope.

As we compare the words of Jesus and the words of the Apostle Paul we see 'the leaven of the Pharisees'. Such a thing was inevitable. Jesus knew it and warned us this would happen. Apostasy began as soon as Jesus died.

Should Christians Obey Humans Such As The Apostle Paul?

Many Christian groups like the Jehovah's Witnesses, attempt to follow 'the entire Bible', believing that God requires us to do this because the Bible is 'inspired'.

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that God cannot talk with Christians directly like the Bible indicates in Matthew 28:18,19; They believe he talks to us ONLY through the entire Bible and the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

It's important to note that even though the Bible is inspired, it was not written by God. It was written by men. Even with good intentions, humans are imperfect and can make mistakes.

The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is also made up of men who acknowledge their imperfections. They don't claim any divine inspiration and agree that mistakes are possible. However they say the organization is 'spirit directed'.

Of course there's nothing wrong with reading the entire Bible and considering what your church says. However what does a Christian do when the instructions of Jesus are different than the instructions of other Bible writers or the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses? What would be the wise path to follow?

Does one pick and choose which Bible verses they will follow and which ones they will reject? Should we reject some of the instructions of Jesus because another Bible writer said something different? Would it be wise to put instructions of the Apostle Paul ahead of the words of Jesus? Is it wise to put the instructions of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses ahead of the instructions of Jesus?

How To Be Spiritually Enlightened.

Let's go back to what Jesus said about our contract with God. Christians are baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Matthew 28:18,19; Instead of putting humans first, why not put God first? Shouldn't God always come first? Since Christians believe God is real, why not let him communicate with us directly through Holy Spirit?

Instead of going against our inner knowing and conscience when it says, 'this isn't right', why not follow guidance from Holy Spirit, regardless of what humans, or our religion, or the Bible tells us?

When we do this we become children of God, - not children of our religion or Bible writers or the Quran or someone else's spiritual experience. We put God first. We pray, we ask questions, we give thanks, we meditate, and most importantly we trust in the guidance we receive from Holy Spirit. We develop a direct relationship with God that always comes first above our relationship with our religion.

When we know that God leads us, - not our religion, it's easy to understand that every single person on the planet can reach out to God and receive loving guidance just like we do.

Religions were invented by men to divide and control people through fear. God is love. God brings people together for one common purpose, - to love God with all our heart and to love our neighbors as ourselves. Love is the narrow path to eternal life.

God Bless, all of you.


In 1981, the Watchtower made it a serious sin to leave their organization. Since then anyone who leaves for any reason is labeled a 'wrong doer' who must be shunned. Here's what the 1981 Watchtower says.

'14 One who has been a true Christian might renounce the way of the truth, stating that he no longer considers himself to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses or wants to be known as one. When this rare event occurs, the person is renouncing his standing as a Christian, deliberately disassociating himself from the congregation. The apostle John wrote: “They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us.”—1 John 2:19.

15 Or, a person might renounce his place in the Christian congregation by his actions, such as by becoming part of an organization whose objective is contrary to the Bible, and, hence, is under judgment by Jehovah God. (Compare Revelation 19:17-21; Isaiah 2:4.) So if one who was a Christian chose to join those who are disapproved of God, it would be fitting for the congregation to acknowledge by a brief announcement that he had disassociated himself and is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

16 "Persons who make themselves “not of our sort” by deliberately rejecting the faith and beliefs of Jehovah’s Witnesses should appropriately be viewed and treated as are those who have been disfellowshipped for wrongdoing." Watchtower magazine, Sept 15, 1981, p 23, par 14-16

Related Information.

  1. Double Standards. The Watchtower fights for freedom of religion so they can spread their unpopular beliefs. At the same time they shun members who resign or join a different religion. See Freedom of Thought, Conscience, and Beliefs

  2. Religious Persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses who leave the Watchtower

  3. 2013 Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses talk Shun Your Family

  4. The name Jehovah was invented by the Christian scholars in the 13th century and used extensively in the NWT translation of Jehovah's Witnesses. At the same time Jehovah's Witnesses blast Christendom for "hiding the name of God" by replacing the name "Jehovah" in the Bible with "the Lord".

  5. Disfellowshipping and shunning began in 1952. Since then millions of families have been torn apart by the Watchtower's shunning requirement.

  6. The secret Watchtower rule book, Shepherd the Flock of God, confirms the punishments for violating the Watchtower's shunning requirement.

  7. Jehovah's Witnesses believe it's appropriate for the Watchtower to tell the world what God's commands are and to enforce them on behalf of God. They believe the Watchtower is God's 'messenger' and 'prophet'. However they are mistaken. The Watchtower's predictions from 1889 to 2008 have failed, proving that they are not in communication with God.

  8. Since the historical record of the Watchtower proves they are a modern day 'false prophet', the use of God's name when referring to their own 'commandments' or 'rules', deceives millions of currently active Jehovah's Witnesses and interested persons who are totally unaware of the Watchtower's track record. Hiding the truth from young and new Jehovah's Witnesses fits in nicely with their 'Theocratic War' doctrine. Read Watchtower Theocratic Warfare Quotes about why it's ok to mislead people to protect 'God's organization'. As you read what the Watchtower says, ask yourself if they have any integrity, conscience, or compassion. Millions of Jehovah's Witnesses are working hard for the Watchtower at their own expense because they believe they are working for God. Thanks to loyal Jehovah's Witnesses, the Watchtower continues to accumulate cash, real estate, and financial assets.

  9. Although Jehovah's Witnesses believe the Watchtower is God's prophet and messenger, on rare occasions the Watchtower has disclaimed having any divine inspiration.

  10. Why do Jehovah's Witnesses obey the Watchtower when the truth is readily available? See Mind Control

  11. The Watchtower's shunning policy appears to be an outright rejection of the teachings of Jesus in Matthew 5:46,47 where he said, 'If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?'

  12. Religion is doing what you're told regardless of what is right. It divides people. Morality is doing what is right regardless of what you are told.

  13. Luke 12:51-53; 'Do you think I came to bring peace? No I tell you, but division.'

  14. Matthew 10:34 'I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.'

  15. The word disruptive could refer to Christians who were asking too many questions and challenging the authority of Paul and other leaders. But Paul doesn't say this. Paul says, 'We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies. Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the food they eat.' 2 Thessalonians 3:11,12

  16. When Jesus was alive the new testament hadn't been written yet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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